[15:04:10] NASSP Logging has been started by indy91 [15:04:12] hey [15:06:56] Hey, just got fiber hooked up. Wiki and other stuff will be down until I switch over DNS and such [15:07:46] ah, ok [15:23:54] oh hey, haha, just wrote something about your Apollo 12 checklist/MCC proposal [15:24:52] it's just that one part of me thinks "great, people can fly yet another mission more easily". And the other half of me thinks "oh no, not another MCC supported mission I have to make sure doesn't break" haha [15:27:18] yep, just got the message lol [15:27:27] and I definitely understand that sentiment [15:27:55] if there is any aspect I'd work on at the moment it would be the checklists anyway, so I think we're both on the same page in fact [15:28:28] I've also got my RTCC Operations Handbook document to consider, as well [15:29:28] but yeah it's tempting because it's so similar to Apollo 11 [15:29:42] not to mention I'm currently flying it :P [15:29:49] a little bit of hybrid trajectory here, a little second lunar orbit plane change maneuver there [15:29:57] a bunch of landmark trackings and done [15:30:28] and now that we actually have landmark tags I can actually perform those tracking maneuvers, haha [15:31:26] well, nothing has changed on for the Moon for that yet [15:31:29] on my Apollo 8 run, I skipped all the tracking procedures because I couldn't identify any landmarks by sight alone, ended the mission with about 20% more RCS propellant than expected lol [15:32:26] we have the Apollo 12 CSM Lunar Landmark Maps... but it took me until after TEI to realize that it's for a different launch date [15:32:34] with a different landing site [15:32:39] so half of the maps don't even apply [15:33:51] regarding the landmark tags, I'll get to that very soon to add the new style of markers. But for now there are no NASSP specific landmark tags for the Moon [15:34:05] not in the new style of markers anyway. And you have to edit the Moon.cfg to use the old style [15:35:34] oh whoops lol [15:35:53] either way, the new style tags are pretty neat [15:36:08] yeah the Earth ones are great [15:36:31] finally at the right elevation, too [15:37:05] The NASSP ones I mean. All the markers that come with Orbiter are very nice as well [15:46:45] I have some Apollo 7 MCC updates planned, maybe I can be convinced to work on Apollo 12 afterwards :D [15:47:12] ooooh [15:47:42] so what you're saying is, you want a bribe :P [15:47:56] I am saying there is a chance. 50% of me is convinced :D [15:49:05] hahaha [15:52:27] so you have just flown Apollo 12, too? All the way already? [15:52:36] not yet, I'm working on PDI [15:53:17] the LM Activation Checklist has a dangerous procedure [15:53:32] well kind of haha [15:53:41] ACT-29 [15:53:48] V21N01E, 1462E, 576E [15:53:50] don't do it [15:54:13] that's an IMU bias. They didn't change it in the LGC padload for some reason, maybe it was too late [15:54:42] But too large of a bias to wait until it could be updated by uplink [15:54:57] huh, I couldn't tell you if I've done that or not [15:55:04] ok now I am confused [15:55:10] I don't think I have, Ryan was walking me through most of it [15:55:21] that same number is in the padload document [15:55:31] so why did they have to add it in the checklist then... [15:55:38] Did someone fat-finger the padload [15:58:06] that sounds oddly dirty [15:59:18] but yeah idk [15:59:52] maybe it was a procedure that Houston wasn't sure if they'd need to perform or not, depending on if the padloads could be updated in time [15:59:58] the checklist got updated 9 days before launch [16:03:03] well no idea [16:03:17] but our IMU doesn't have a bias, so that is not a good step to do in NASSP [16:04:20] morning! [16:04:39] morning! [16:05:34] and yeah I remember there was some procedure that Ryan specifically told me not to do, I think it was part of setting the DAP though, we had to V34 terminate instead of hitting PRO all the way through or else we'd do some special procedure we didn't want [16:14:02] hey Mike [16:15:00] thewonderidiot, so how come there is a procedure in the Apollo 12 LM Activation checklist to set the padload NBDZ to a value if that same value appears in the padload document [16:15:12] another one of these launchpad mysteries... [16:15:24] hah, uhhhh [16:15:27] yeah that is weird [16:15:45] I wonder if maybe they accidentally excluded it from the K-START tape [16:15:54] yeah something like that [16:16:28] CaptainSwag101, if you do that procedure you get a 0.018 degrees per hour IMU compensation in one axis that the IMU doesn't need [16:17:13] ahhh I see, yeah I remember that Ryan mentioned something about the PIPA as well, we didn't need a PIPA bias because it is perfect in NASSP [16:17:54] yeah [16:28:31] I think I'll just put the P22 landmarks in the new landmark file [16:28:53] in the old one there is also some astronaut named surface features like Mount Marilyn [16:30:52] which the Orbiter markers already show [16:31:06] so yeah, don't need to add those as they are already there